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Stranded in Korea....help!!

Hey guys,
I flew into Korea yesterday to do a quick Visa run, my third one in 2 months which is crazy to begin with... I arrived at the Chinese embassy in my wife's home city of Kwang Ju to apply for a new visa and they told me that three weeks ago they were told that foreigners(non Koreans) need to live in Korea for at least 3 months and obtain residence before they can apply for any kind of Visa. Doesn't seem to be a way around this, so I'm looking at flying to another country before going back HOME to Beijing. I've been liiving and working for over a year, for a registered company doing an internship. I'm American.

Has anyone ever heard of this insane rule, and is this happening anywhere, like Hong Kong or Japan? I'm gonna have to go to one of those countrys.

Another option is to go home and quit my internship a couple moonths early and leave before the gov't physically forces me out, which seems to be the next step after this. Is there any kind of Visa on arrival for Americans to China...even like 7 days...enough time to get the things from my appartment and get the heck out of there?

Sorry if I sound bitter, I just left the comsulate less than an hour ago. I appreciate any and all suggestions, thebeijinger forum has been a big help to me in the past.

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mission002 has reported before that visas are not issued to non Korean citizens anymore: http://www.thebeijinger.com/forum/2008/08/15/Need-Hong-Kong-hoteladvise

You definitely should have called them (or used the search function) before you just hopped on a flight!

Getting a visa on arrival is extremely hard in China. Going to Hong Kong and getting a new visa there is IMO a much wiser choice. However, even there, make sure you call a couple of agencies to make sure it'll work out!

FXZL - Up-to-date visa Information for China
fxzl.blogspot.com

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Considering you are American and the b.s. your country makes honest Chinese people go through to get a visa, I say tough sh*t

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thunder54 wrote:
Considering you are American and the b.s. your country makes honest Chinese people go through to get a visa, I say tough sh*t

Like it's HIS fault??? If so many previous numbnuts didn't overstay their visa and melt into the woodwork it wouldn't be that hard.

For someone that seems to be able to fly around on a whim for 30 day visas, why not just fly to America and get it there? It's not like you're going to save a huge amount of coin by flying to HK instead of LAX/JFK/etc...

What on EARTH could be so interesting to have to jump through all these hoops to hang out in China for 30 day stints? Either get a proper visa or wait until things go back to the old corrupt ways where you could just use an agency to bribe your way in.

Cheers,

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Crap, well I had been checking thebeijinger daily a month ago, I guess I figured from the pregress reports I'd heard as recent as Saturday from friends that things were getting easier. I have a friend who even just got their Visa extended for a year, during the Olympics! (I don't know the details like what type and so on, sorry)
Pretty much this was all planned last minute to make sure I was out and in before my family who's visiting arrives, I left a week longer than I'd planned and I probibly would have done more research if I wasn't so rushed...but honestly who would think they'd do somnething like this? Korea is one of the closest nations to fly too, and no one had made a subject about this ( I just checked) that link was under an (accommodations in HK post)
I'm an intern for a cultural exchange company, all legit, an unpaid position I'm filling for college....I'm young and no I don't have the cash to fly on a whim....and deffinately don't have the cash to be stranded out of the country, not if I plan on paying 3 months rent in September anyway.

One question though, can anyone tell me if Japan is doing anything like Korea with visas? I have friends who can house me for free, and I don't mind eating instant noodles for a few days, a flight from Korea is $300, where HK is $400.

And to thunder54 you're right, this is tough sh#t...but you're still a prick. Did the US beat your home country at Swimming or some other event or something Smile

Any more constructive suggestions?

Thanks for the help guys.
Even if I wanted to pack up and go home, end my internship two months early....I still need to get back into the country and get my Xbox 360... and clean boxers. I still have 4 cans of Dr. Pepper calling my name!

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Aragorninchina wrote:
I still have 4 cans of Dr. Pepper calling my name!

Oh how I miss Dr. Pepper. Could I have one of them?

Illegitimus non carborundum

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Well I would go to Hong Kong.
1. I am 99.9 % sure that your Visa should be ok there. (check with agents first anyway)

2. HK to Beijing by train should be around 500 HK$ for hard sleeper or about 980 HK$ for Soft sleeper. A room in Chunking Masion or Miradador Masion about 150 HK$ for a night.

Money and safety wise Hong Kong it is.

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Not upset about swimming Phelps is a champ, just find it ironic to hear an American complaining about a visa problem considering I have to be finger printed like a criminal just to enter your country.

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My friend got a new visa in Japan two weeks ago and it was fine. Everything is expensive there though-even just taking trains-so you won't be saving any money going there compared to Hong Kong.

"If you don't have enemies, you don't have character."
Paul Newman

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I just got back from Korea to take care of my visa situation. I recommend using a travel agency to sort things out for you, never go to the Chinese embassy in Korea. I paid 140,000 won or $140 for a 1 month L visa, i'm also an American.

Check out visa/travel agencies near 'Gwang Hwa mun' (광화문) they seem to get your visa issue solved quicker, more efficient, but obviously at a heftier price compared to any other in Seoul..makes me wonder how they can do this. Anyway, can't seem to find the business card where I got my visa done but theres many in the area with 'VISA' written on their office windows, can't miss it.

G'luck, peace.

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Found it.

Ms. Yoo
Touria (투어리아)
Tel: 02-723-2343
Fax: 02-723-0707

www.touria.co.kr

peace.

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Aragorn, don't know what happened but I just typed a lengthy response on here and for some reason it didn't show up but here it goes again...

I'm almost in the same boat as you. I am currently working in Korea under a C-4 temporary work visa. I have been planning on going to China since before I came back to work in Korea in June. I knew about the visa requirements for a tourist visa to China and that you have to go through a travel agency for a maximum fee of 20,000 won. HOWEVER, when I started calling around to travel agencies last week, they informed me that just last Monday, August 18, the Chinese embassy in Seoul started enforcing the new regulation that you have to have an alien registration card (ARC). This, however, is impossible to get for people on short term or tourist visas in Korea (as I'm sure you're already aware).

I called the embassy to confirm that this was the new regulation. The told me that it was and that I would have to go back to the US to get my tourist visa to China. Because I don't want to have to pay for a flight all the way back to the US I started researching other options. This is what I have found so far.

You can get it done in Japan. I spoke to the Chinese embassy in Tokyo as well as the consulate in Osaka. It costs 150,000 yen for Americans and can be done in one day for an extra 30,000 yen. The things you need are:

-one passport sized photo
-complete application (available online)
-hotel reservations in China
-ingoing and outgoing travel reservations
-one copy of your passport

This website was useful for the visa stuff in Japan:

http://www.china-embassy.or.jp/jpn/lsyw/qzyw/t331450.htm

For the Osaka consulate, the guy who did this website has some good info about how to get there:

http://perrin3.com/japan/china-consulate-osaka/

Chinese consulate Osaka:(81) 6644-59483/2

I also checked in to going to Hong Kong. I was never able to get in touch with the Chinese embassy there. They are only open for one hour in the morning (10-11am) and one hour in the afternoon (3-4pm) but even when you call then, you only go through a machine with constant voice props and can never get through to speak to someone.

I got in touch with the China Travel Service there that can process visas for people through the embassy. They say that Americans can still get it done there without having to be a Hong Kong resident.

I am going to China on a tourist visa but then changing it to a student visa once I arrive. I will be studying in Beijing but don't have enough time to process the student visa before classes start on Monday, September 1. Regardless, because of this situation I'm still going to be late for classes by about a week and out atleast an extra 700 dollars.

I've been to Japan before but never to Hong Kong. I am trying to decide now which way will be faster and cheaper for me. If you know of any cheap way to do it let me know. I'll have to go from Seoul-Osaka/Tokyo-Beijing China or I go Seoul-HK-Beijing. Any recommendations would be appreciated.

I hope this info was useful.

Thunder54, how many people do you think apply for US visas every year?... I'm not exactly sure but if I were a gambling man, which I am, I would be willing to bet that it has one of the highest application rates of any country in the world. Any country that has a high per capita GDP, high standard of living, and low unemployment is bound to attract millions of people from all over the world looking for a better life. With that being said, if the US has stringent visa requirements, I think, for the most part, they are justified. Next time, if you're not going to be of any use to someone's post, don't post any b.s. comments and waste our or your time. Cheers.

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So, even though you did this before, it won't work anymore until (if) China changes their visa requirements back to the way they were when you went through this travel agent.

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Yep the others are correct, HK is the best option. BUT do NOT go to the Embassy there, they can also make you jump thru hoops.
I think it is standard these days everywhere now. As someone said, use a tavel agent, a bt more expensive but sure.
I use Shoe String travel in HK, have done for 8 yers and they fire everytime!
Stay at Garden Hostel in Mirradoor, note NOT new garden hostel!
Avoid the other "Mansion"

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Maybe you should go back to the US for a while. Where "I've been living and working for over a year, for a registered company doing an internship" without a work visa is called being an illegal immigrant and gets you a lovely stay at a cattle barn in Iowa and free trip to Guatemala. If you had a real job your company would have gotten you a real visa. I'm an American I have lived and worked in 4 countries and every time I had a visa for the full length of my contract BEFORE I went wheels up.

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Wow, 1life2live, this is a really helpful post to a lot of people out there. Thanks!

Now I wonder how comfort got his visa in Korea - were you there before August 18th?

FXZL - Up-to-date visa Information for China
fxzl.blogspot.com

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My thanks to everyone especially '1 life 2 live' and 'comfort' for all the useful info, I didn't expect to get so much help so soon. I'll start by seeing if there's a chance of getting anything in Korea through an agency, but I'll likely end up going to Japan, where it seems I can get a visa and where I have friends to stay with...plus it's Japan Smile

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Hi,

According to Japanese government webiste you need to be a resident or working in Japan to apply:

See: ( Taken straight off their website )

4. In accordance with “the Law of the People's Republic of China on Entry and Exit of Aliens” and other relevant regulations, the aliens who apply for the Chinese visa shall fulfill the following procedures and provide the pertinent documents.(ONLY FOR THE ALIENS HOLDING A JAPANESE LONG-STAY VISA (MORE THAN ONE YEAR))

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You can definitely get a visa in Thailand - a friend got one yesterday

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What is actually says under required documents on the CHINESE EMBASSY website IN Japan is:

"Certificate of alien registration (to the aliens who have the visa with the period of more than half a year in Japan)"

This means, IF you have a visa with a period of more than half a year in Japan, then you need the alien registration card (ARC). I double checked this with the embassy in Tokyo. They informed me that no, you don't need the ARC if you are in Japan on a tourist visa.

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Thanks...Good to know....

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Hey guys....I'm trying to figure something else out now... My wife just tried to apply for a Visa here in Korea, before we leave for Japan...we figure if we have one of our Visas before we leave we'd have one less to deal with in Japan. She was told that she needs a plane ticket FROM KOREA to CHINA for a visa from Korea.

Our plan was to apply for my Visa in Japan....and on our round trip ticket fly back to Incheon, S. Korea and fly to Beijing from Korea. Do I need a ticket to Beijing from Japan if I'm getting my Visa IN JAPAN? If that's the case, tickets from Tokyo to Beijing are around $1500 one way, which is nuts three times what we'd pay to just fly from Korea.

Anyone know if this is the case everywhere? I know it's not in HK....don't most people just walk across the boarder to SHenzhen and fly or train back from there because it's way cheaper?

I'm going nuts with these new, hidden rules they keep throwing at me. My wife and I are in a stand still until we can contact the Consulate in Tokyo....which isn't answering the phone(they should be open, too)

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Just giving my thread a bump...I'm still needing help, and very urgent.

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I don't think you'll have to provide a direct plane ticket - I mean, nobody can force you to choose a specific route, and as far as I'm aware the only thing which is needed for visa applications is a proof of when exactly you enter (and exit) the country!

There are even some countries which don't have direct flights to China - what would they be supposed to do?

FXZL - Up-to-date visa Information for China
fxzl.blogspot.com

Look for Apple Tour and Travel Agency!

Hey I went to Korea about 3 weeks ago to get a visa to come to Beijing. I found a travel agency called Apple Tour and Travel located at the subway station of Samgakji inside the USO place. I only paid $75 to get my visa in 3 days (it's like $45 for 5 days) and $50 dollars for a round trip ticket reservation that I didn't buy.
I also asked at the Hanna Tours offices and they do the visa for around $60 in 5 days.
Look on the Internet for the phone numbers of those agencies. It was fast and trustworthy.
Good Luck!

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..a friend of mine didnt make it in Japan before olympics. He went back to America. He's in America now. Even one of my friend from Canada tried to do it in Thailand..but unfortunately cant. He's now in Canada.

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If you need an air ticket, make sure to buy the most expensive one you can get, one of those that are endorsable, refundable and everything. Who knows, you might want to change your plans...

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For people travelling to HK .Fly to Shenzhen and bus over border.This is then an internal flight and very cheap.

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